Comments on: Getting the Last Word In on Metadirectories http://blog.talkingidentity.com/2008/07/getting_the_last_word_in_on_me.html An Architect's Quest to make sense of the world of Identity and Access Management Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:56:09 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: James http://blog.talkingidentity.com/2008/07/getting_the_last_word_in_on_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-68 James Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:02:53 +0000 http://talkingidentity.com/blog/?p=112#comment-68 See <a href="http://jacksonshaw.blogspot.com/2008/07/james-unanswered-questions.html" rel="nofollow">http://jacksonshaw.blogspot.com/2008/07/james-unanswered-questions.html</a> See http://jacksonshaw.blogspot.com/2008/07/james-unanswered-questions.html

]]> By: Martin http://blog.talkingidentity.com/2008/07/getting_the_last_word_in_on_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-67 Martin Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:30:28 +0000 http://talkingidentity.com/blog/?p=112#comment-67 I guess that when something else other then Windows becomes the predominant desktop solution that AD will be replaced by something else. AD is the directory in just about every organization running Windows. Let me see. What does that work out to be? 99% of them out there? Since they already are locked into AD why not use it? Oh I know, then they might not consider using the Oracle (virtual or meta or otherwise) solution. I guess that when something else other then Windows becomes the predominant desktop solution that AD will be replaced by something else.
AD is the directory in just about every organization running Windows. Let me see. What does that work out to be? 99% of them out there?
Since they already are locked into AD why not use it? Oh I know, then they might not consider using the Oracle (virtual or meta or otherwise) solution.

]]> By: Clayton Donley's Blog http://blog.talkingidentity.com/2008/07/getting_the_last_word_in_on_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-70 Clayton Donley's Blog Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:51:40 +0000 http://talkingidentity.com/blog/?p=112#comment-70 <strong>Re: Meta-Directories Not Dead (They're Aging)</strong> Some of the points that Matt Flynn raises in this post were addressed in Nishant's reply. However, I wanted to spend a little time on this part of his post: ... There has been a ground swell of apps that... Re: Meta-Directories Not Dead (They’re Aging)

Some of the points that Matt Flynn raises in this post were addressed in Nishant’s reply. However, I wanted to spend a little time on this part of his post: … There has been a ground swell of apps that…

]]> By: Clayton Donley http://blog.talkingidentity.com/2008/07/getting_the_last_word_in_on_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-66 Clayton Donley Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:02:13 +0000 http://talkingidentity.com/blog/?p=112#comment-66 Hi James, Actually we are. I'm sure you've looked at what we're doing with the Identity Governance Framework, including some new standardized APIs and donated code to the Liberty Alliance. Obviously we'll continue to build on this. The big problem will remain all of the existing code that's been written to take advantage of directories since about 1995. Active Directory wasn't even around until several years later and some of this code (portals, etc...) has remained until today. Plus it's actually pretty hard in Java or non-MS languages to take advantage of Kerb+LDAP together when talking to Microsoft Active Directory. Clayton Hi James,
Actually we are. I’m sure you’ve looked at what we’re doing with the Identity Governance Framework, including some new standardized APIs and donated code to the Liberty Alliance. Obviously we’ll continue to build on this.
The big problem will remain all of the existing code that’s been written to take advantage of directories since about 1995. Active Directory wasn’t even around until several years later and some of this code (portals, etc…) has remained until today. Plus it’s actually pretty hard in Java or non-MS languages to take advantage of Kerb+LDAP together when talking to Microsoft Active Directory.
Clayton

]]> By: Clayton Donley's Blog http://blog.talkingidentity.com/2008/07/getting_the_last_word_in_on_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-69 Clayton Donley's Blog Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:59:38 +0000 http://talkingidentity.com/blog/?p=112#comment-69 <strong>Is Connecting to Multiple Directories Really Easy?</strong> Back from vacation and finding a whole army of people writing about virtual directory while I'm gone. Working backwards, I saw the following quote from Jeff Bohren in his entry about vendor independence in response to a few posts from... Is Connecting to Multiple Directories Really Easy?

Back from vacation and finding a whole army of people writing about virtual directory while I’m gone. Working backwards, I saw the following quote from Jeff Bohren in his entry about vendor independence in response to a few posts from…

]]> By: Ash http://blog.talkingidentity.com/2008/07/getting_the_last_word_in_on_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-65 Ash Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:58:32 +0000 http://talkingidentity.com/blog/?p=112#comment-65 That is a a huge claim there. Is it possible that the "groundwell of apps that directory support Active Directory" is due to "emergence of Virtual Directory solutions"? How can you back that claim up? It's obvious to me that companies should have a virtual directory in their infrastructure, but how many actually do? And how many app dev teams are even paying attention to this space? That is a a huge claim there. Is it possible that the “groundwell of apps that directory support Active Directory” is due to “emergence of Virtual Directory solutions”? How can you back that claim up? It’s obvious to me that companies should have a virtual directory in their infrastructure, but how many actually do? And how many app dev teams are even paying attention to this space?

]]> By: James http://blog.talkingidentity.com/2008/07/getting_the_last_word_in_on_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-64 James Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:17:13 +0000 http://talkingidentity.com/blog/?p=112#comment-64 OK, how come Oracle isn't helping others develop LDAP enabled applications in a way that eliminates variants? Although Oracle isn't responsible for the mess out there, it is smart enough to teach folks how to do things better. Virtual Directory feels like it is an opportunity to do even more worst practices ... OK, how come Oracle isn’t helping others develop LDAP enabled applications in a way that eliminates variants? Although Oracle isn’t responsible for the mess out there, it is smart enough to teach folks how to do things better.
Virtual Directory feels like it is an opportunity to do even more worst practices …

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